TPJC HAS gone to hell...

I thought that the JC1s were bad.

I was wrong.

JC2s are worse.

Let's see....there's this stupid 1245 rule which our school has. Kenneth didn't like it, and decided to take it to the forums.

Response?

Juniors saying that they don't like it as well. To make matters worse, seniors are telling everyone to leave by the front gate.

>_>

And then, we have asses who keep defending the school for no reason....

There's already 5 pages on this rubbish. I am not going to even bother myself with looking through everything, since I need a decoder or something. Some of those morons should learn to type properly, instead of shortcutting with aLtErnAte CaPSSS..

rationale smechenels.. its better if ppl actually offer practical solutions rather den complain.
i haf nutin against the complains.. its a forum for all of us aniwae.. but dun start ur "fights" n
"hates" here mien..

its not nice to see tpjcians fight n argue amongst one another bcoz of trivial matters.. n its nt
nice to see jc students are supposedly of higher intelligence to ask such a question such as
rationale behind the 12.45 rule..

face it lah ppl.. wen things dun go ur way u complain.. im sure in secondary school dey release
u all at 12.30++ rite? but y dun ppl complain abt dat? coz it goes their way.. dats y.. cz
otherwise dey'd go hm later on normal days.. n if u can wait fer more den 2 hrs or sumting
fer ur frens or "spouses" y not a measly 35 mins.. rite? if u can wait fer hours b4 ur fav show
starts.. y not a measly 35 mins.. rite?


Practical solutions? Name me one freaking practical solution to the 1245 rule. We want out, so name me one good one other then waiting for the gate to open. And no, I don't wait for 2 whole hours for my friend. Again, people like this shows how moronic people are. What's wrong with asking questions? Is it wrong? It isn't something stupid like "The principal sucks! Can we vote her off, ala survivor style?"

no one actually asks u ppl to study during those 35 mins.. u are actually ALLOWED to play
such as basketball or soccer n stuff.. u noe that time flies wen ur having fun.. so y not use
ur brains or physical minds to gud use?

fer dat matter, dun aim directly to anyone in this forum.. jz mention the point dat sumone said is
enuf.. n dun be rude...

ciao!

So, for those who isn't playing sports in the hot baking sun, sitting around and rotting away is fun. Probably some new game I have not tried hard enough.

Dear Kenneth,
Apparently, whether I appear like a fool or not, it is by your judgement. I do not care about what you think because obviously, that's not the whole issue here.

Secondly, being a year 2, you'd have attended the talk during orientation where students are urged to do their own work and study during break times. It's uniquely strange to say that school is not a condusive place to study because school is in fact a place where you learn and gain knowledge. If the school is not a condusive place to study, then what is the whole purpose of coming to school? Besides, I don't think anyone goes home straight after school to study. Don't lie.

How does coming to school for lectures sound? Conductive my ass. You probably don't go home and study straight away. Some do. Just because you don't do something, does not mean the whole word follows what you do.

Thirdly, as unfortunate as I may be that I'm not in the school's administration, please do think RATIONALLY. How is it possible that lessons could end exactly at 1245 on most days given that there are students who are in classes that are of mixed subject combinations? The school also have to think about stretching its resources to the max, ie. the teachers and classrooms available.

Hence the word HOPEFULLY!

Fourthly, I don't think you are that updated in the forum. If you have read the many topics that have been put forth in the forum ie.top 10 fave food etc. So if you like some of the food, then, what's there to complain about. Just avoid those you don't like larr.. In addition, inventors are people who creates something to improve or deprove a situation. They don't complain. Here you are, complaining about something. If you wanna be like an inventor, create a hole in the school fence, and get out of the school through the hole. Then, I'd call you an inventor. It's disgusting to liken people who whine with inventors.

Fifth-ly, by voicing your complains, and not suggesting constructive and rational suggestions, you are apathetic.

Right. The entire canteen has what..7 stalls..? We like only 1 stall. Screw the rest, let them rot? Why not have maximum efficency to have all 7 stalls selling decent food? I am not asking for excellent, just decent.

Dear Kenneth, (lots of dear kenneth...XD)
I think that comment was entirely unnecessary. Stand up for what you believe in, yes, but DON'T INSULT PEOPLE'S INTELLIGENCE simply because you disagree with their stance on any matter. I don't know Nurhuda personally but I can tell you right here, right now that it is downright rude for you to call anyone a fool. What makes you any better and qualified enough to deem her a fool? Unless you've got substantiated evidence that you're blessed with an IQ soaring far above all else's, I suggest you quit making baseless accusations and insults.

Some people seem to have an IQ equalvilent to an ant. Fool is mild enough. It could be worse...trust me.

Furthermore, what's the point of arguing with Huda over this? She's not the one determining whether this rule will be amended. So if you're going to take it up with anyone, let it not be someone who simply has a differing opinion.

Arguing? I see this as discussing. She has a different opinion, is it an offense to tell her what we think as well? Her opinions are, to some extent, wrong, so we can't shoot her down?

Yes, I did say the JC1s whiny, and you can say I, too, was being judgemental, but I think the posts in forum speak for themselves. I ask of you to read the posts and threads pertaining to unsatisfactory aspects within the school and you will see a large bulk (if not, majority) of the complaints coming from this year's JC1s. Unlike you, I have good reason to say they are whiny. At least I don't call people names like 'fool'.

Geez.

Yeah. Finally a batch who can think and question instead of being drones who does everything, and accept everything that is given. Sadly, our batch of people seem not to have known this at all. What we are given, we accept. Yay!

I think it's really weird that you people are complaining about this issue. Stop the crap pLease.

Let me give my views.
I've been in the school for a year already, and I have no qualms about the 1245 rule. If you people want to leave early, but unfortunately, are not skilled in playing truant and skipping classes, then, don't come here to complain.

Yay! Breaking the rules is better then trying to change it! >_> Just because you love the rule, does not mean everyone shares the same feelings.

Aside from that, Jun Yao mentioned about people loitering about during 1210-1245 on fridays especially. There's always people loitering about all the time. Simply because the timetable is such that it contained a lot of breaks for some and a few for others. I see no major problems with having students loitering about. In fact, what's the whole problem? As long as you don't make too much of a din outside classrooms that are having lessons being conducted, all's well.

Good point. There's no difference between 100 students loitering and 200 students. Crowds that gather near the backgate is roughly the same amount of people who is there during their break time.

And some of you even mentioned that you all are not doing anything constructive during the period between the time your lessons end and the time the school gate opens. Like hello? apparently one of the core values of the school is independant learning. If you all think that you're so sick of studying in school and wants to leave early, it's not like as if you are gonna go home and study. If you're not doing anything constructive, it is by your own choice. It's like if you want to ruin your future, fail your tests, drop out of school whatsoever, it's by your own choice.

In addition, to those people who started this complain, would you prefer a fixed timetable whereby there are no breaks in between, strictly secondary school styled? If I'm the school administration, and you guys are complaining too much, I'd arranged the timetable such that it ends at 1245. see, there'll be no complains then. Grow up people. You're in a jc now. Things are fixed this way and that for a reason. Be thankful that lessons end at 1210 instead of 1245. bAh.

Personally, 1245 isn't too bad. Sadly, that can't be the case, yeah? That's why we should be let out of school! In secondary school, we leave when lessons are done. Why can't it be the same here? Keeping us in school for 35 minutes is a total waste of time. Think of all the NSing I could have done by then.

seriously, I feel this issue is extremely redundant. Even the canteen issue is redundant. It's been going on since last year. If you don't like the food in the canteen, don't buy. Easy. Boycott the stalls in the canteen or what, instead of just complaining. When they stop making profits, then, it's obvious that the food is not nice, and they'll try to improve on it. Problem is, you guys complain, you guys still eat the food in the canteen. So what was the complain all about? You people seems ok with eating the food in the canteen wad..

Do we have a freaking choice? Boycott...like it's so easily done. 40 minutes of break is not enough for us to go anywhere. Either give us a canteen, or demolish it so that it won't be a mere waste of space.

Are you guys just trying to live up to the name of being Singaporeans by complaining at every single thing that you hate about? Why don't you complain about the teachers who can be boring at times, or about your classmates who are not interactive enough? Get a life. Human learn to accomodate themselves to the situation. Or are you telling me you are not a human?

I think you all should stop wasting your time on complaining. there are bigger issues out there that's more interesting to be discussed. This kind of attitude you people have simply shows the apathetic nature of singaporean youths.

Accomodate..? Right. So when life sucks, and you actually could voice your opinions, why not? It's not like we don't have a choice to do anything. Bigger issues out there? Why don't you start? To me, this is one of the more interesting issues to date. Because it showed that people can think.

ok, in the first place, let's all realise the fact that chances of the 1245 rule being abolished is very very low...however, singapore is a country for freedom of speech and democracy, right? ok... so lets just waste our time here giving speeches then...

Oh, so voicing our opinions is a waste of time? Good point. No one listens to them anyway. So why bother? Hence, we must do thinks forcefully! Hold the school at gunpoint till they change the rules! Yay for terrorism! >_>

if u end your lesson at 1210, i think there's no point in making a fuss about the 1245 rule... its only 35 mins! even lesser than a half of a soccer match...u probably could use the time to review some lectures notes or stuff like that...for those ending school earlier then 1210, i know its really enduring to wait for 1245, but if there is no ruling and students were allowed to go home anytime they want, then it would be damn chaotic...i think we as students should try to understand the obligations that the teachers are taking... if some accident or whatever happens juz becoz the student went out of school earlier, the school would ultimately be responsible... no doubt... think about it, put yourself in the teachers shoes... you wouldnt want that to happen right? and if you want to say that you want to "bear responsibility for our own actions", then if you get killed or what(touch wood), then how you wanna do that?

Which part of "bear responsibility for our own actions" do you not understand? Idiot.

and for the j1s, if you hate this skool so much, you have the option of quitting the skool... seriously, you can juz go to the office and get the neceesary forms, and by the next day, you can wave goodbye to tpjc... happy already, dun nid to trouble yourself here... go to srjc, mjc, tjc, watever jc... i think by coming to a jc, you all should at least realise that the next step is university... so pririority is studies and not the smell of the canteen or the 1245 rule... theres no diff in studying in skool or at home.. well at least not much a diff...

Yes! Hate the school and go! It's wrong to voice your opinions! We can't change scrap! TPJC sucks!

I won't go any further lower, because I fear I may just start swearing at the morons there. The posts above are all from seniors like me. I am now officially ashamed to be a senior. Is this the kind of example we are setting for our juniors? Accept everything? What's wrong with asking some decent questions for once? Isn't MOE asking us to challenge the process? I guess morons like these are those who are in the "just shut the **** up and do what I tell you" type of people. Sadly, when they grow up, somehow, they will realise that the world is not in such a way. At times, you have to think for yourself, and challenge processes so that things can be improved. Perhaps that rule was in place since..1989?

Idiots. No wonder someone said that Singapore has 4 million people, 6 businessmen, and 1 CEO...